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it's the start of march madness. i wanted to lead with basketball but i was overruled. luckily we have a star player leading us off, andrea mitchell. >> i'm toure in little rock.
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twitter turns seven years old and i'm going to tweet that. >> toure might be away from the table but we have someone almost as cool taking his seat. the guy who is heating up late night alongside the outrageous chelsea handler. so we're heating up right now on "the cycle." >> right now, the president is at an israeli state dinner where he has just received the medal of distinction, wrapping up a packed day in the middle east. he spend the day with palestinian president. the core of the first trip to israel, he is talking about a two-state solution and laid out these three points.
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peace is necessary, peace is just and peace is possible. >> i believe it is important to be open and honest, especially with your friends. the easiest thing for me to do would be to put this issue aside. just express unconditional support for whatever israel decides to do. that would be the easiest political path. i want you to know that i speak to you as a friend who is deeply concerned and committed to your future. the only way for israel to endure and thrive as a jewish and democratic state is through the realization of an independent and viable palestine. negotiations will be necessary but there is a little secret about where they must lead. two states for two peoples. >> secretary of state kerry staying behind to work toward finally getting the two sides back to the table. he circles back to jerusalem from amman, jordan, saturday night. remember there haven't been substantial direct talks in more than four years. they tried briefly in 2010 but talks broke down over
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settlements. let's get right to chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell in jerusalem. we heard the president say israel's youth can only prosper alongside a prosperous palestine. and he said it should only be addressed after the core issues are settled. that seem like a major revision from what he said in cairo. >> reporter: it certainly is. he said settlement there's fall into question after we deal with statehood sovereignty for the palestinians and boreders in security as well for israel. this is a change. it is asking the palestinians not to demand as a, sort of a first issue before they go back to talk to have that freeze on settle manies and it is an acknowledgement that the policy in 2009 did not work. he was really making a broader appeal today to the israeli youth, to the next generation and acknowledging first of all the historic roots of israel and of israelis here in going to see
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the dead sea scrolls. tomorrow in going to the site. in all the acknowledgements that he made, very broadly and emotionally, trying to establish a connection with the israeli people. going over the head of the government, if you will, and speaking to the next generation and saying it is in your interests. look, the demographics are clear. israel is already just about 50/50, if you consider the west bank and gaza as part of this country. and it is not yet an independent palestinian state. and if they are going to continue this way as an occupying force, he is basically saying, this is not going to be good for israel. it is not going to be good for israel. take a chance on peace. >> picking up on that point about the way the president was talking about the israeli people, he talked about the democracy raffy of getting to a two state solution. then he talked about the dignity of the palestinian people. let's take a listen to one
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passage of the address. >> put yourself in their shoes. look at the world through their eyes. it is not fair that a palestinian child cannot grow up in a state of their own. living their entire lives with the presence of a foreign army that controls the movements. not just of those young people but their parents, their grandparents every day. just as the israelis built a state in their homeland, palestinians have a right to be a free people in their own land. >> do you think the president broke any ground in making that kind of appeal outside of the context of direct talks? will it help? >> reporter: absolutely. i don't know that it will help because it has to be followed up. wee have secretary kerry having dinner on friday night. circling back from amman. but it is a new approach. and it is the first time that this president has tried to make, as i say, an emotional
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connection to israel's people. to try to match even though it is a big leap, the kind of connection that george bush had on security concerns and certainly bill clinton had as a beloved figure in israel. that is what he had not done until now. he had been here as a candidate in 2008. i was covering him there then. he had not reached out to israel's people in a personal way. and i think that's what he tried to accomplish. he did it by talking about the struggles of the palestinians and the israel business the civil rights struggle, with the fact that you israelis have fought for this land. you fought to overcome your struggles just as my children in another generation would not have had equal rights. so he really tried to make it a personal appeal. and that i think had some resonance in talking to the host of the "meet the press" here in israel and very widely known anchor. and she said the follow-up is
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the main concern. but that it was a very different kind of speech and very appealing to the people there in the room. >> and making that personal appeal something the president does very well. thanks again and safe travels. i want to bring you in. you wrote about some of the symbolism sort of both direct and more subtle references that you saw in the president's itinerary. tell us a bit more about what you're seeing there. >> definitely everything was planned in the sense of making sure that obama touches on all the bases. and corrects all the mistakes that were perceived by the israelis and jewish americans in his first term. if in his cairo speech in 2009 he spoke about the connection to israel and the jewish people as based on the trauma of the holocaust, he made sure to stop at the israel museum. see the dead sea scrolls and talk about the jewish connection to their homeland.
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that's one example. he spoke to the youth of israel. he talked about technology. he went to see a technological exhibit at the museum, to discuss the high-tech and innovation. so definitely someone was looking very well to what went wrong in the past four years and decided to just reverse everything and make sure all these mistakes are corrected. in these short three days in israel. >> and two rockets from dwas landed in southern israel about 40 miles from where president obama was today drawing his condemnation. obviously we can't know until and unless hamas claims responsibility for that. what's your best guest as to the message that those were sending while the president was in theater and the united states and israel were embarringing on such an important meeting? >> well, first we should mention that 40 miles sounds a lot in america but in israel it is
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pretty much the whole country. he was not that close to the range of the rockets. i think the mention of whoever accept these rockets wanted to convey, you're going to ramallah. you're going to talk to the palestinian authority. you're going to hear the moderates from the hamas. keep in mind that's part of the picture. that's not the full picture on the palestinian side. there is still the gaza strip, the gaza strip is ruled by hamas. and this is a group that didn't make yet the sleep toward willing to discuss a final status agreement with israel or even recognize a state of israel. so i think it is a reminder to the president that this problem of the fracture within the palestinian people still exists. >> the president talked a little about iran today as it relates to israel. let's play a tape of that. >> iran must not get a nuclear weapon. this is not a danger that can be contained. as president i've that, all options are on the table for
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achieving our objectives. america will do what we must to prevent a nuclear armed event. >> when the president says all options are on the table, we have to seem means it. that doesn't mean boots on the ground as much as we might one day bomb an iranian nuclear facility. what the iranians would do, then they would attack israel in response. does that math work out for israel? >> that's one of the reasons israelis, and we hear it from the israeli military leadership, israelis are cautious when talking about attacking iran. it is understood that whether it is israel that attacks or the united states, there will be an iranian retaliation against israel. when obama talks about all military options on the ground, of course he doesn't want to repeat an iraq scenario of taking over the country, although one thing may lead to another. i think the assumption is if the united states reaches a position, in which all diplomacy has been exhausted and there is
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no other choice but to launch some kind of a strike against iran, then united states will be able to take care of whatever launchers iran has that could threaten israel and provide some kind of assistance and missile defense to protect the israelis. it won't be 100% in fool proof protection but it can go a long way in assuring israelis. >> all right. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. up next, biden and bloomberg together and taking on gun violence today. what meaningful reform are we actually going to get? the assault weapons ban is out. the fate of background checks is uncertain. the bill headed to the senate floor. a far cry of ambitions. we're talking guns. >> i get it. >> for thursday, march 21st. [ male announcer ] when it comes to the financial obstacles military families face, we understand. our financial advice is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families.
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many supportes of gun regulation are mad after harry reid said the assault weapon ban has no chance of passing. the white house was quick to push back. >> we are still pushing that it pass. the same thing was told to me when the first assault was banned in 1994, it was attached to the crime bill that it couldn't pass. last time we passed it, we only had seven republican votes in 1994. >> but he doesn't have the democrats. again, i just, i've never found it makes any sense to support something and declare there is no possible of it passing. >> and vice president biden appeared with mayor michael bloomberg, stressing that all
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the proposed gun regulations were drafted to support second amendment rights. of course it depends who you ask. the nra says congress is putting the constitution at risk and the gun lobby is raising lots of cash with that appeal. the nra raised $1.6 million in february. that's its highest one-month total in over a decade. so is this with fundraising? fundamental rights or harry reid's unique brand of democratic leadership? let's spin. >> i hope it is about harry reid. >> it is about harry reid. the president did something very important in the state of the union which is really one of the most important addresses he will give in his second term. the first big policy address to congress, obviously after re-election. he said they deserve a vote. he didn't say it about one part or only background checks. he went through and put his moral fiber on the line and that they deserve a vote for each proposal. that was the president's words. i think what we're seeing is a
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pretty important fissure where now harry reid, either doesn't care that much about this issue from the person of comprehensive gun regulation and floor votes, or because he is stuck dealing with this very unruly caucus. either way, he has broken away from the idea we'll have a vote on everything whether or not we lose. now he is saying, you know what? this thing, maybe it is an amendment. maybe it gets in but i don't really care. when you contrast that to over 900 people are killed every month with guns and that we're talking about democracy and one of the president's key noneconomic domestic agenda items. i think it is a tremendous fissure that harry reid can't deliver what the president said it was priority number one. >> harry reed is considering his constituents. let not leave them out of the puzzle. it wasn't big a ask of the president when he said vote on it. he even said you can vote no. it wasn't really a heavy lift
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that he was sort of offering up. but i have to say whether on purpose or inadvertently, the gun control conversation that a lot of people have been having has been so absurd and downer productive that it looks like background checks might be the only piece of legislation we get past and barely. i don't even know if that will happen. when you have the vice president of the united states telling women to discharge their shotguns out into the night, not legal, by the way, to ward off advances from criminals, when you have a colorado university telling me, i should urinate on my attacker. >> a good trick, by the way. >> i could pull it off. or a colorado legislator telling me i don't always know when i'm about to be raped and therefore i shouldn't carry a gun in self-defense either. when you have michael moore setting a fake onion article to talk about the nra. these are absurd arguments. not to mention, it is worth
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noting governor cuomo is reconsidering that gun legislation he pushed through very quickly in the state house. because he is calling it unworkable before it has even been enacted. so i have to go you're very disappointed in both what you're going to end up getting and the most vocal voices that have been on this issue. they've been laughable. >> a couple of things. you go always pull out absurdities, arguments that have been made and not in the best interests of advancing the cause. one thing that i was concern about going into there debate is that democrats would go too far. that there would be too many liberals saying we need to take all the guns. we're challenging the second amendment itself which i think is downer productive. something i've been pleased about, the focus has been on specific legislation. legislation that is broadly popular across the country. including the assault weapons ban and going back to that, this was the piece that i said from
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the beginning, and i think a lot of people said. the assault weapon ban was the most politically perilous and difficult piece to actually accomplish. and i don't think that we should be so disheartened that it is not going to pass. because frankly, i don't think it is the most important reform that we could get. i happen to think universal back ground checks are a lot more important for a few reasons. we had an assault weapon ban back in the '90s. we were not likely to get something that was stronger than that. it was not going to include a gun buy-back provision like the one in the '90s. there would probably be loopholes. most shooting victim are not shot with assault weapons. handguns are far more often the cause. so i don't think this was the most important piece. i think universal back ground checks would be incredibly important. i think people should be excited and still motivated about that possibility, regardless of the dynamics.
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the president and harry reid who has a lot of complicated things he's dealing with. to me, i haven't lost hope yet. in the other piece, the nra, while they are experiencing this sort of fundraising boone, for the first time there is powerful interests allied against them. which in the long term can have the effect of shifting this conversation and putting politicians into place who are going to be more forceful and more effective advocates for sensible gun regulations. >> s.e., i'm glad you noticed absurdity in the gun control conversation. >> it is everywhere. because the actual absurdity, it is full of absurdity but almost on the gun control side which is filling all these lies, telling all these lies to america and locating the conversation around this lie that what do you do when a criminal walks in with a gun? when studies show that is a once in a lifetime or less likelihood. you're right.
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it never happens. >> what is actually likely is for us to get shot by people we know and love. especially for women, twice as likely or more to get shot and killed by people they love fch we locate the discussion around that, we have a much more reasonable and less absurd conversation. if we're telling women to arm themselves against people they know and love, that would be absurd. what is really absurd is that not only 26 people die in sandy hook and all the people who died in aurora and the gabby giffords shooting, on and on, we have one mass shooting per month since 2009 and yet we can do nothing to create common sense reform that will make america safer. the more guns we have, the less safe we all are. we are the laughing stock of the world that we can't accomplish anything on guns. because a small mine ofrt americans are clinging to this idea that is a total lie, that guns will make us safer. if guns would make us safer, we would be the safest nation in the world. but we are the opposite of that.
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that's the absurdity, that we need to root out of the conversation. >> i wish we had more time. >> me, too. my rebuttal? >> something tell me we won't solve this today. >> up next, a very different hot topic on the hill. the growing push to get employers to provide sick leave. mom always got good nutrition to taste great.
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congress is set for another battle over your bedroom. actually, it could be in your living room, kitchen, bathroom or kids' room. a fight over paid sick leave and it is spreading across the states and the halls of the nation's capital. yesterday tom harkin and representative rosa delauro that would set a baseline for paid
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sick days for america. would it allow employees to earn up to seven days per year to take care of their own or their families' health. interestingly, there is evidence that bill may help businesses. coming to work sick costs the economy $180 billion each year in lost productivity. and it's gross. >> in the guest spot, thanks so much for being with us. >> my pleasure. thank you. >> so some of the research that i've seen from cornell university actually shows that moms are penalized more than dads when they do take sick days to take care of their kids or they have to take off work to be able to take care of their kids, their family, a loved one. does having a standard baseline get it that problem and hopefully equalize the employer
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response to taking sick days? >> well, it helps women in several days. women are less likely to have it. more likely to need it since they do most of the care giving. but they also need men to share that care giving and more men will do so if they don't get punished for it at work. >> i wanted to pick up on something she was talking about, this might be good for the economy. some say they would rather make their own productivity decisions. i'm wondering what you think about the context of a decision and trying to build support for this kind of federal policy. >> this is exactly why we need it. because of the economy. we cannot have recovery and growth unless people have money in their pockets to cover the basics. keep the lights original keep food on the table. there's no discount pump at the gas station if you've had the flu. but business own here's are partners in our state coalitions tell us what they most need is
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for people to come spend money in their shop. so in their interests, your workers are my customers for those workers not to lose their job or their paycheck because they're being a good parent or following doctors' orders. >> here in new york city, there's a battle brewing over that exact point that he mentioned. christine quinn running for mayor of new york city is standing against this legislation because she says the economy can't afford it. and she is getting some pushback from some of her democratic opponents. have you noticed a breakdown on this issue, left, right? who is a friend? who is a foe? who is with you or against you? >> the good news is that there is huge support for these issues among voters all across the political spectrum and across all demographics including the majority of republicans. and there are a lot of business owners on our side. it isn't really businessies. it is lobbyists for
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multi-billion dollar corporations who are most against this. we're talking about workers at walmart and olive garn. it is a little hard to argue that the people who prepare your kentucky fried chicken or your tacos at taco bell should not be allowed to stay home if they're sick and not pass on flu with your food. so instead, they wrap themselves in the flag of mom and pop shops. but we have paid sick days in a number of places and we have a growing body of evidence. it shows in fact, now those businesses support it because it has been a good thing for them. >> that's a compelling argument. let's talk about paternity leave as well. men being able to leave after they have a baby, after their wife has a baby. a the love people say that mandatory paternity leave is helpful in removing the stigma around maternity leave. so where is that in this whole piece? >>. men, the problem is if it is offered at all, it is unpaid. and many families cannot afford the financial hit.
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paid sick days and paid family leave will allow people to have income so they can put their family first. be successful, both with their loved ones and also on their job. and that's what everybody wants. >> so are you not in favor of paid paternity leave? >> no, of course i am. i'm saying we support our, the coalitions are 20 state coalitions in our network and many of them work for workers to be able to have paid sick days. others work on the issue of family leave insurance to make family leave affordable and accessible absolutely we support it. >> thank you so much. >> my pleasure. thank you. and i want to urge your viewers in new york to call and tell them, your cities need paid sick days. >> thanks for that plug. >> she's not our mayor yet. speaking of families, you all know i talk about mine from time to time.
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constantly. like her mom, my daughter ella likes to give her opinion. for instance insisting on some crazy outfit that she had to wear today. but ella also likes to give her opinion on politics. i know, i'm raising little politico. it is a little bit scary. together we are launching a new web series called political playground where ella and i discuss all things political. for instance, here's ella's take on president obama. >> this is good. >> he cause the about job. do you think he gets a lot of sleep at night or no? >> no? why not? >> because he has to do lots of work. >> i want to know, if any political topics you talk about your w your kids. karen and her 5-year-old son jackson discuss how cool president obama is because he likes spiderman. like us on facebook so you can weigh in and don't forget on check out the entire political playground episode. i promise, i am a little biased but i don't think you'll be
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one of the ways the simpsons plays with modern society's sense of irony is having episode begins with racing home to watch tv but also in a different way. reminding us we're watching tv while mocking tv conventions. i write with about the way they mock conventions. so does our next guest in his new book present shock which explains what happens when we all exist in a distracted presence and don't pay attention to what's in front of us.
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part of which robs us of conventional meanings. it is a fascinating book that will help you understand the modern world. it is an honor to have him with us now even though now is a loaded world in his world. how are you? >> hi. good to be with you. >> in your book you talk about how we're filled with these devices that allow us to never fully be in the moment. not just the iphone and the ipad but also the remote control which allows to us click, click, click and never allows us to be in the here and now. what is the impact on our world? >> i guess the main one is that you don't know where you are. the thing that i, that bothers me, i guess, about the constant pinging from everywhere else is that we think we have to catch up with our devices. if you don't catch the latest thing on your twitter feed, you're somehow behind. when in reality it is the
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twitter feeds and everything else trying to keep up with you. what i'm trying to do with present shock, you can be in the presence without being in shock of even though we've lost some of the great industrial age narratives and goal oriented ways of thinking, we can still be centered. we can still have purpose. as long as we don't let these things distract us completely. >> it seems like for a long time, the idea of dystopia was represented by chaos. and then utopia was that these technology wos solve our problems. now is utopia your idea of saying, quote, yearning for a simpler life devoid of pain, pinging. >> in some ways we're all entitled to an hour devoid of
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pinging. >> i don't know that we can do do have a segment without saying pinging. >> we talk about the idea of preparing for the apocalypse. it is almost this wish gratification that we want a simpler life. if that has to come at clam us the ruin. >> believe it or not, i've always believed. digital technology can make for a simpler life. when i was first exposed to digital technology, i thought this will make it easier. i can work at home, in my own time, i can exchange goods with other people directly without working for the men. it seems like part of the slacker era. then the futurists came on and said don't worry. it can save the stock exchange. there will be new places for capital. what we did was exacerbated the worst of the industrial age. we all tried to keep one digital
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technology rather than using it to create -- >> to simplify our life. >> the other thing you talked about was that culture, that add has affect our governs. it was like the culture doesn't want the government to do anything unless there is an urge encrisis. on the other hand, we have a washington right now, obsessed with cutting the deficit. a very long-term problem that has been sold and masqueraded as a short term crisis. your book is called present shock. have the hawks used present shock politics? >> in some ways. without time, without real linear time, it is hard to have a narrative. they keep complaining obama cannot really tell a story that's compelled by the american people. we don't respond to stories. where are you taking us? what is the eye on the prize? what ends will justify the means. so we end up in this crisis
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management. always responding to each thing. being a deficit hawk, we're going broke. we won't be able to pay our bills. that's pretty immediate. what we have to do is, i mean, long term, look toward a more steady state sustainable economic policy rather than always looking toward the next crisis just to get us through moment. >> is that really true though that we don't think in stories anymore? to me stories and story telling are so central to human beings and the way we think about the world, our lives, our trajectories. has technology really changed that? >> i don't know if technology has changed it. we did not have history until we had text. we didn't have -- >> we had stories before we had text. >> not the same way. we did not have human history. we did not have the idea of judeo-christian progress. we did not have contract that's created accountability in the
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future. >> didn't we have an oral tradition before we had written text? >> we did. but those stories were very circular. very different kinds of stories. they were not we are a people marching toward this end. that we're going to make things better over time. we're going to write laws together and improve the ethical condition. that notion of progress, of history really came in the age when we could write things down and see a future. and i feel like the digital age may be just as big a shift. it will take a while. more than this year or next year. we're seeing the inklings of people responding less to stories. say even in a christian narrative. what will happen when i die, more to the little thing around their wrist saying what would jesus do. very in the present in terms of performative behavior. i like how break it down, the reality show taking over traditional television drama,
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narrative. the book is fantastic. thank you for writing it and thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me of. up next, single parenthood is no joke unless you're a stand-up comic in which case everything is a joke. the comedian describes how to conquer fatherhood without sacrificing manhood. ee. that's your receipt from another store? yep. let's go! check out that price. that's walmart's every day low price. that's what i'm talking about! yes, yes! oh my goodness! that's the walmart low price guarantee! bring in your last grocery receipt and see for yourself. save more on the candy your family loves. with low prices on reese's eggs and bunnies, cadbury creme eggs, and all their hershey's favorites. get more easter for your money, guaranteed. with our low price guarantee backed by ad match. walmart.
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story before. a single parent with three kids trying to get by. trying to balance raising children with work and still save some semblance of a personal life. she sounds cool, doesn't she? well, she is a he. >> i've raised him by myself for a while before i married beth. >> we all know it. you're amazing. >> here's the difference. his sense of humor changed. like when he got dressed for halloweenering got dressed as ninja. i said as he ninjew because we're jewish. he didn't throw arrest the, he threw a star of david. when he went to kindergarten, he said i'm a ninjew. and he was throwing his star of david. >> that's josh wolf, a regular on chelsea lately who raised three kids and a st. bernard in a one-room apartment while working as a stand-up comedian. from nationwide tours to national tv, he lived the true
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american dream growing up to be the hero in his own room. he shares tips on how to raise kids based on reality and he is here with us at the table. >> that guy sounds amazing. whoever you are referring to, i want to meet him, too. >> i don't want to offend right off the bat but women have been doing this for years. >> yes. >> what makes you so special? >> well, here's the thing. nothing! that's the point. the point is that there is always this thought that men can't do it. >> true story. >> right. so we may do it a little more, a little differently but we still do it. like i don't take this standard things as seriously. that ninjew example is perk. i'm very honest. i don't coddle as much. when my son was like i would
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like to play professional basketball, i said that's not going to happen. like we're jews. you can own a basketball team but you're not going to play on one. >> okay. >> playing it straight. >> i'm a little more honest. >> so my husband tells me that when he takes our daughter out into the world, that people are extra super nice to him and they try to help him. especially when he travels with her. i think they feel bad for him or they feel like he cannot do it on his own. do you have that same experience? >> it was the worst. they just assumed because i was a guy at the park that i didn't know what i was doing. i would have older women come up to me and say, you know, your son needs some water. so you're saying like kids are like other human beings? like they need liquid or they'll die? that is a great note. thank you. i'm going on take that note -- sometimes i will say, sometimes
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i did play dumb because when you're a single guy and you have three kids, meeting women isn't always the easiest thing. sometime i would play dumb just to try to -- >> this is like the guy with a dog thing. >> taking puppy to the beach. >> the kids at the playground. >> what i found was, girls my age didn't want to go out with me. so i had to readjust and i started focusing on nannies. nannies were the best. they had big nice houses that were empty. refrigerators full of food. >> i'm glad you said houses. >> and big beds. it was crazy. it was like an hourly hotel that i could actually go to. it was pretty good. >> don't be uncomfortable. >> did they like being referred to as girls? when they're your age? >> who is that? >> the women you're talking about. >> no, they don't. generally not good. but again, see, i'm not too good with doing things doing thinks politically correct. >> what is the best sort of
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date? if you're in this space and a little older and you have a kid, is there a different type of dating you do, and different sort of dream date? >> a dream date was just one that ended with me laying next to a woman. i mean, that was. >> gettin' some. >> at some point you are with kids all day every day. you just want to be with somebody who can complete a sentence, you know what i mean? that was the dream date, that there actually was one. you know, it's not easy to find one-on-one time, because i lived in one bedroom with three kids and a st. bernard. it's not easy to convince a woman to have sex with you in a minivan -- i don't know if you know that -- >> the story keeps getting better. >> you have to broaden your haydn. we did picnics at night, we did hiking. >> picnics at night? >> with a strange guy, probably
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not. >> here's why i'm making $1200 a month maybe, so i can't really afford -- the kids are eating three meals a day, but maybe i'm eating one. so i still want to go out and be with women, but i can't spend any money on them. >> that's when you get creative, right, tourre? >> i'm crying for you -- >> don't cry, man. >> but within the dating trajectory, you've had that good date where you end up the same way we all want to end up, with a woman. at what point in the dating trajectory, one month, two months, six months, whatever, do you want to start introducing your kids and maybe meeting her kids? when is the right time for you to bring her into your dojo? >> great question. the only woman that ever met my kids was the woman i married. if a woman said i want you to
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meet my son, that means you're looking for a daddy. that's not me. i'm not trieding to add the brady bunch into this situation. the only person i ever introduced to my kids, i knew i was going to marry. >> do you think that was the right move? wait -- >> how long -- i knew i was going to marry her about 7 months in. >> i found when i walked around with my son, especially when he was little, people would look at you like my god, you are the greatest person ever, you are taking care of your child. i'm like, this is what i was supposed to do. even if i didn't have the sweater on right, they would be my goodness, we get extra points. >> as a father you get extra points just for doing what you're supposed to do. it's frustrating for you, right? >> a little bit. >> so your child walks and talks? that's amazing. we get credit for things we're supposed to do. >> josh wolfe, thanks for joining us.
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on sunday two teenage boys were found gilt of raping a 16-year-old girl in steubenville, ohio. shockingly common, on a little 78 women are forcibly raped every hour. more than half of those women who reported being raped were under the age of 18. this case was not unique, yes somehow this case, two star football players, raping a girl
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so drunk to be unconscious has captured our attention. why? maybe it's the age, maybe because online activisted seized on the case, maybe it was the small-town football culture. i think we're shocked and captivated by this case because we can't easily dismiss this as bad people doing bad things. they weren't scary criminals in dark allies. these weren't isolated people in isolated incidents that have no bearing on our lives and communities. there were, of course, the rapists themselves. there were those at the party who laughed, took disturbing videos, shared them with friends, those who looked on silently with a laugh or did nothing. those who defended the rapists, the coach who hosted the party and the head coach who punished no one on the team except the actual rapists. the members of the media who seemed to think this story was a cautionary tale about social media, rather than understanding the vital role social media played in